Skip to main content
SeeQee
Chris PettitRepostFacebook9
Oct 5

Why Wise is so cheap

I asked before how you all send money to your fiancées. I'm an autistic nerd, so I tend to dig deep into things most people don't care about. Anyway, I've always wondered how Wise manages to be so cheap. Other companies pretend to be cheap by advertising “no fees,” but they get you on the exchange rate. They give terrible rates and sometimes skim 10% or more in markup.

Here's how they actually do it.

Your money never actually leaves your home country! I was surprised by this too, but Wise uses a 1:1 peer-to-peer system. Say you send money to your girlfriend: the money goes into a domestic US bank account. Wise has a local bank account in Manila, and it uses that local balance to send her the money. That's why when you receive money it says ‘You received money from Wise Pilipinas.’ They fill the gap with money someone else sent from Manila to the US. If a particular corridor gets out of balance, they lower the transfer fee to encourage more people to send money the other way.

For rare currencies, they buy wholesale. If it's a less common currency like the Ghanaian cedi, where 1:1 matching is harder, they buy the currency in bulk at wholesale. That lets them skip the expensive SWIFT banking network entirely.

That said, Wise isn't perfect. They're notorious for being slow sometimes, especially if your account history or balance isn't much bigger than the amount you're sending (it triggers a manual compliance review). They also got busted by the CFPB (the US Consumer Financial Protection Bureau) for misleading fee disclosures (like hidden costs when using Apple Pay or Google Pay with credit cards), improper exchange rate rounding, and failing to properly handle error investigations and refunds when transfers were delayed.

Living in the Philippines, Wise is an essential part of my daily life. I don't trust local banks, so I use Wise to fund my GCash account and Schwab when I need cash. That real exchange rate makes a real difference.

Reactions9 of 10 original comments
Other ways to sendWise feesWise delaysGCash worriesWise fans
Other ways to send
Jan David Narkiewicz2

I just gave my wife, back when she was still my girlfriend too, a Schwab card in my son's name. She takes out 40K at a time from a UnionBank ATM. I get slightly better rates than Wise (like, really slightly), and the ATM is in the next building.

Wise fees
D.j. DuLong0

Wise sends a 1099 every year for the USD side, just like any other US domestic bank. The most I ever pay in transfer fees is 35 pesos when sending PHP from Wise to my local peso account. Moving USD from a US bank to Wise's US partner bank is a free ACH transfer.

Wise delays
Andre Chappot0

I guess that's why larger transfers sometimes take several days. They wait until they have enough of the currency to send.

GCash worries
John Hudson0

But none of you have ever had trouble with GCash? I've heard a lot about money disappearing from GCash, stuff like that. Nobody's experienced that?

Wise fans
Laurent Geral0

Yes, that's right. After 15 years here, Wise is the best, at least for me as a European expat. With Wise plus a Maya Bank account, you're in good hands.

0

Comments 0

Please log into write a comment.