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Oct 1

How I use US and Philippine carriers ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ญ

As someone who's lived in the Philippines a long time, I figured I'd share how I handle my US and Philippine phone lines.

I use two phones. Each has a US carrier on eSIM and a Philippine carrier on a physical SIM.

๐Ÿ“ฑ Phone 1

๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Mint Mobile - eSIM

5GB data per month

$200.23 a year with tax

About $16.69 a month

๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ญ Smart - physical SIM

Smart Magic Data

65GB - โ‚ฑ749

No expiration

I just keep buying the 65GB package. When it runs out, I buy another.

๐Ÿ“ฑ Phone 2

๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Tello - eSIM

2GB data per month

$10.76 a month with tax

About $129 a year

๐Ÿ‡ต๐Ÿ‡ญ GOMO - physical SIM

30GB - โ‚ฑ449

No expiration

I keep a 30GB package and top up whenever I need to.

๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Tello

Tello supports Wi-Fi calling, so I can keep using my US number for calls and texts while living in the Philippines.

What I especially like is that Tello also works over Philippine LTE.

So even when I'm not on Wi-Fi, Tello basically rides on the Philippine SIM's data for my US calls and texts.

For $10.76 a month, that's pretty handy.

๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ Mint Mobile

Mint supports Wi-Fi calling too, and I'm on the 5GB/month plan.

Here's what my actual annual renewal came to:

Plan $180.00

Taxes and fees $20.23

Total $200.23

That's about $16.69 a month.

But I still haven't managed to get Mint to run over Philippine LTE the way Tello does. If I'm wrong, someone please correct me, or if you know how to set it up, let me know.

โœˆ๏ธ What I really love about Mint: international travel

I called both companies myself and compared their international roaming.

For the amount of data I use abroad, Mint comes out a bit cheaper than Tello.

Tello is pay-as-you-go roaming in most countries, while Mint sells international packages. I really like Mint's approach because I know exactly what I'm buying before I leave.

Mint's current international passes:

1 day - $5

1GB data

60 minutes of calls

60 texts

3 days - $10

3GB high-speed data

200 minutes of calls

200 texts

10 days - $20

10GB high-speed data

500 minutes of calls

500 texts

On the 10-day package that works out to $2 per GB, with calls and texts thrown in.

So my rule is dead simple:

10 days or less = I usually buy the Mint international pass.

More than 10 days = I usually get a local SIM/eSIM.

On a short trip I don't want to fiddle with anything. I want to land, switch on my phone, and have service.

If I'm going somewhere for a month, Indonesia, Thailand, Africa, wherever, a local SIM makes more sense to me.

๐Ÿ’ฐ Basic costs

Mint:

$200.23 a year

5GB a month

Tello:

$10.76 a month

2GB a month

US lines combined:

About $329 a year

About $27.40 a month

Philippines:

Smart:

65GB - โ‚ฑ749

No expiration

GOMO:

30GB - โ‚ฑ449

No expiration

So I basically have no monthly Philippine data bill. When I actually use it up, I just buy more.

About $27 a month on the US side, and Philippine data as needed. With that I keep two US numbers and two Philippine networks, and traveling abroad is pretty painless.

As a long-term resident of the Philippines, this combo has worked well for me.

I'm curious how other long-term expats do it. Mint? Tello? Google Voice? Something else?

And if anyone has figured out how to get Mint to ride on the other SIM's Philippine LTE/5G the way Tello does, I'd love to hear how you did it.

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Tello experiences
Gerry Reissman0

I use a Globe eSIM in my iPhone, but I use so little data that I don't have a plan. I just load a few hundred pesos when I need it. I also have Tello (10GB plan) for the same price as you. The problem with Tello is it's really slow and unreliable unless I'm out in the open. I also have T-Mobile, which is way better than Tello but pricier, so I only use it when I really need to.

Mint gripes
Ned O'Brien1

I also have Tello and Mint on separate phones (I've had the same US numbers for decades and don't want to lose them), and my experience is similar. Mint is really hard to get working on Wi-Fi calling abroad, while Tello works fine. I'm giving up on Mint and moving that number elsewhere once my already-paid year is up. I think Mint does something on purpose to push people into international roaming.

Simpler setups
Mond Y Ra1

Why so complicated.. I have a Globe physical SIM and a Verizon international eSIM account. I've never needed calls, Filipinos prefer texting. Globe: 30 days unlimited data and texts โ‚ฑ1000 per 30 days Verizon (set up in 2017) International calling plan $20 a month, free texts, no data Calls charged per call at a set rate

Newcomer notes
Fred Parker0

Good info. I've only been here a week. Bought a prepaid Smart eSIM at the airport and coverage has been amazing in Makati and BGC so far. I also have a US plan bundled with the internet I pay for my business back home. It's $15 a month, pay-per-use abroad. Everything seems to be running fine, but I haven't checked whether I'm racking up charges.

Thanks
Big Isle Rancher0

I posted this before. Some people still find it confusing. There might be something useful in there. https://www.facebook.com/share/p/19ZXGLhUcg/

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